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Originally Posted by 868904
If that's what Tre thinks then they should fire him too. There was no character or compete issue with this team under Hartley with pretty much the same core less Tkachuk and Hamonic who we don't question.
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Hartley missed the playoffs 3/4 years though. That one fluke year was nice but it may be glossing over the truth. The players tuned him out and turned on him. Obviously I think that is in part to his coaching style and personality but it could also confirm that the make up of the group is off as well. They basically refused to play for him so while he may have got more out of them one season, it was only one season. He tried to push them and they either didn't respond or pushed back. I really hope they go with a new coaching staff but I'm not so sure that alone is the answer. I'm honestly ready for a shake up.