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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
It's not that, it's a matter of losing the high ground. For most people who subscribe to these politics, it's something sacred, something automatically true that if it's not totally obvious to you it must be because you're just not a good enough person. Truly good people would feel these injustices intuitively, and immediately recognize the light of truth revealed to them without needing any explanation. The moment you invite debate, you acknowledge that these ideas are up for debate, and that can't be, or the whole ideological structure falls apart. It would be like inviting someone to test the material composition of the Emperor's New Clothes.
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Yes, that does seem to be case. Where are the identarian counterparts to Pinker, Peterson, Jonathan Haidt, Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, and Richard Dawkins? Where are the lectures, interviews, and public debates where they make their cases?
Nowhere that I can see. There are all sorts of politics blogs where identarian columnists make simplistic moral judgements and opine snarkily. But where are the researchers? The academics? Where's the reasoned persuasion?
At this point, it seems you are exactly right - the people promoting this ideology believe they have found unshakeable, self-evident moral truths. They don't feel they need to persuade or argue their case any more than religious fundamentalists feel the need to be debate their beliefs with evolutionary biologists - people who are open to the Word will accept it in their hearts.
Which only shows how perilous it is that much our public policy and dialogue has been been shaped by an illiberal, quasi-religious belief system. And the biggest peril isn't that this belief system will take over all our institutions - I don't think it will, I think it is at or close to its high water mark. The danger is that the way the dogmatic beliefs of a minority of people had such a powerful and illiberal effect on public policy will deeply undermine public trust in elites and our institutions. You couldn't devise a better program to inflame populism if you tried.