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Calgary4LIfe · 03-30-2018, 12:32 AM

Tippett isn't my first choice, but I would welcome him. You know what this team really needs? A coach that can come in and implement a system BASED ON THE COMPOSITION OF THE TEAM. Hartley did it, and the team exceeded expectations. Brent didn't do it, and the team sucked. Keenan didn't do it, and the team underperformed. Darryl did it, and the team vastly exceeded expectations. Gulutzan hasn't done it, and the team is under-performing.

Tippett has done it in Dallas - high scoring, up-tempo system, and then in Arizona - boring defensive-heavy system.

Unless he has become stuck in a certain system now, I would be optimistic about him coming in, analyzing the roster, and developing a system that takes the team's strengths into consideration, and implements a fast-transition game.

I just don't think he would even be considered based on the rumors that swirled around him and Maloney. If there was any truth to them, there is simply no way he would ever be asked to come on board, especially given the history of the Flames (Darryl Sutter taking control of the team and essentially pushing out Button, and then Feaster doing the same with Sutter). If I am Treliving, there is simply no way that I would entertain the notion of even interviewing a coach who has tried to get his boss fired.

I am also of the opinion that there is simply no way that Gulutzan is back, regardless of what some are saying in the media. Can anyone out there say that this product has been any good? It is a heck of a lot more boring and hasn't resulted in any improvement over the past regime. When you factor in how much more improved this team has become, as well as how much easier this division has become, there is simply no way that Gulutzan can survive this.

I am sure he is a good guy. I will actually feel bad for him when he is let-go, uprooting his family once again. I just don't see a way around it. The way this team has been plagued with inconsistency from the outset of his tenure in Calgary, to the abysmal record down the stretch while trying to force their way into a playoff picture, to the absolute train-wreck of a finish to close out the season...

If you are Treliving, how do you come out in the media and respond to the question of "Why didn't you change coaches if this new one wasn't able to take this team as far as the last one did, while maintaining you fired the last one - a Jack Adams winner, the first in franchise history - for not being able to take this team any farther?"

I know there probably could be an explanation in there somewhere, but the explanation would have to consist of outlining Hartley's shortcomings more than any of Gulutzan's achievements.

Hire a good coach. A coach with a track record of implementing different systems, or at least a system where the high-octane, puck moving thoroughbred of a defensive corps in place can actually be utilized, with a splash of offensive creativity.

Ruff
Sutter
AV
Quenneville
Trotz
Tippett (not likely)

Three of these are available now (though, once again, only two of them would gain any consideration - Sutter and Ruff, with Tippett being a pariah and all).

Wait for the possible changes this off-season and see who becomes available. I just don't see how this organization can come out and give Gulutzan the vote of confidence now. Maybe... MAYBE they could have come out with something if the Flames finished strong but just missed out. I just don't see any scenario where the Flames retain Gulutzan and rationalize it.

03-30-2018, 12:32 AM	#277
Calgary4LIfe Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Exp:	Tippett isn't my first choice, but I would welcome him. You know what this team really needs? A coach that can come in and implement a system BASED ON THE COMPOSITION OF THE TEAM. Hartley did it, and the team exceeded expectations. Brent didn't do it, and the team sucked. Keenan didn't do it, and the team underperformed. Darryl did it, and the team vastly exceeded expectations. Gulutzan hasn't done it, and the team is under-performing. Tippett has done it in Dallas - high scoring, up-tempo system, and then in Arizona - boring defensive-heavy system. Unless he has become stuck in a certain system now, I would be optimistic about him coming in, analyzing the roster, and developing a system that takes the team's strengths into consideration, and implements a fast-transition game. I just don't think he would even be considered based on the rumors that swirled around him and Maloney. If there was any truth to them, there is simply no way he would ever be asked to come on board, especially given the history of the Flames (Darryl Sutter taking control of the team and essentially pushing out Button, and then Feaster doing the same with Sutter). If I am Treliving, there is simply no way that I would entertain the notion of even interviewing a coach who has tried to get his boss fired. I am also of the opinion that there is simply no way that Gulutzan is back, regardless of what some are saying in the media. Can anyone out there say that this product has been any good? It is a heck of a lot more boring and hasn't resulted in any improvement over the past regime. When you factor in how much more improved this team has become, as well as how much easier this division has become, there is simply no way that Gulutzan can survive this. I am sure he is a good guy. I will actually feel bad for him when he is let-go, uprooting his family once again. I just don't see a way around it. The way this team has been plagued with inconsistency from the outset of his tenure in Calgary, to the abysmal record down the stretch while trying to force their way into a playoff picture, to the absolute train-wreck of a finish to close out the season... If you are Treliving, how do you come out in the media and respond to the question of "Why didn't you change coaches if this new one wasn't able to take this team as far as the last one did, while maintaining you fired the last one - a Jack Adams winner, the first in franchise history - for not being able to take this team any farther?" I know there probably could be an explanation in there somewhere, but the explanation would have to consist of outlining Hartley's shortcomings more than any of Gulutzan's achievements. Hire a good coach. A coach with a track record of implementing different systems, or at least a system where the high-octane, puck moving thoroughbred of a defensive corps in place can actually be utilized, with a splash of offensive creativity. Ruff Sutter AV Quenneville Trotz Tippett (not likely) Three of these are available now (though, once again, only two of them would gain any consideration - Sutter and Ruff, with Tippett being a pariah and all). Wait for the possible changes this off-season and see who becomes available. I just don't see how this organization can come out and give Gulutzan the vote of confidence now. Maybe... MAYBE they could have come out with something if the Flames finished strong but just missed out. I just don't see any scenario where the Flames retain Gulutzan and rationalize it.