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Old 03-29-2018, 04:48 AM   #1045
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I wasn't referring to fan fiction. There is a 3 year gap between ANH and ESB. During that time Han and Leia have been holed up together in small rebel bases for much of that time. We aren't told what has happened to them, but obviously they've had some kind of interaction.
Yeah I'm going to go ahead and call this fan fiction.

[QUOTE]You can obviously interpret the interaction in the ESB a number of ways. However, it's pretty clear that the main intention of the writers was to show that both parties were engaging each other with insults in a way that wouldn't make sense unless there was some kind of emotion between the two. I also disagree with your assumption that Leia just gave in. It was fairly obvious that she had feelings all along. You're saying that despite being one of the most powerful people in the galaxy, she was actually being abused by Han and only gave in when she was too worn down? And then she continued a relationship with him for many years after?[\quote]

Yes it's obvious what the writers were going for, but what they were going for was this really problematic idea that women just won't admit they're into bad boys unless pushed hard enough, and that on general it's not only okay but super romantic to keep ignoring the woman when se he says "no" if you think you know that she doesn't mean it.

In other words what they were going for is not great, and being that it's a major plot development in the movie it's definitely a black mark on the movie. It's also not just that the romance isn't great, Leias character in general is relegated from the buttkicking leader she was in the first movie to Hans love interest and something pretty for Lando to fawn over.

It's just one of those things that gets looked over because people don't watch the films as they are on their own, but instead fill them up with ideas and developments that are not actually in the film.

Or to put it in really simple words: the romance in TESB is still bad even if they later fix it in ROTJ and TFA.

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