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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
14/15 Season is a long way ago from a roster perspective.
Gaudreau
Monahan
Giordano
Brodie
Backlund
Stajan
Ferland
Those are the only guys left on the roster from the good Hartley season, the team under Hartley in 15/16 had a lot of the same issues this team does the next year when they finished low enough to draft 6th overall.
Gaudreau, & Backlund, have really thrived under Gulutzan IMO.
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"Really Thrived" is an overstatement. Backlund has seen his point totals go up marginally with vastly superior linemate in Matthew Tkachuk. In fact from 2015-16 to 2016-17 his only "improvement" was six power play points.
Gaudreau is around 6th in scoring, which is what he finished 2015-16 (scoring is up this season leaguewide). I don't think he's the same goal scoring threat he was under Hartley, even though the numbers may disagree with me the goals themselves seem far more lucky for him these days rather than sure bets.
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Giordano, and Stajan are largely the same players as they were then for better or worse.
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Aside from the lockout season, Giordano produced at a 60 point pace for over ~200 games under Hartley. He's produced at a 41 point pace over 150 games under Gulutzan. Largely the same? Nope, and that's directly tied to the lack of "depth" scoring on roster.
I will agree Stajan is largely the same. I do think his line is better off playing a structured system like Gulutzan's, because wingers like Bollig, Brouwer, etc can't play an uptempo stretch pass system. But I also think that's a roster issue.
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Ferland and Monahan you can question. Career offensive seasons but I do think they showed more emotion under Hartley.
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I'm willing to say Monahan is vastly improved under Gulutzan due to his improvement defensively. But Ferland was due for a breakout the second 2015-16 ended, as he was a classic victim of shooting percentages.
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Brodie has pretty much been a disaster under Gulutzan both seasons.
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Essentially.