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Cecil Terwilliger · 03-12-2018, 10:01 AM

As it is nearing the usual GoT premiere time, I decided to rewatch season 7. Haven't seen them except when they originally aired.

In hindsight, I liked the first 3 or 4 episodes a lot. With the exception of a few minor details about pacing and the order of events (like Jon being in Dragonstone for 3 episodes before they even mention the dragonglass, let alone start mining it). However the oversights in timing weren't a huge deal. I'm ok with imagining that some things were shown a bit out of order to make sure that the overall flow of the story was maintained.

But where it really falls apart is when Dany decides to go after Casterly Rock and Cersei tricks her and takes Highgarden. I was ok with the timing and maneuvering in the show, like Euron catching them off guard twice, it's the aftermath.

Ok so Tyrion is going to go to King's Landing to recruit Jaime and Cersei because...wait why exactly? Dany says she can't help Jon because of the "war" with Cersei, in which they've fought exactly zero battles. So even if Dany leaves to go help Jon in the North, what exactly happens in the South? She gives up Dragonstone? It is impenetrable, she could easily leave a skeleton crew to protect it. She gives up Casterly Rock? Who cares it was stripped of all resources before the Lannister troops left.

So what in the hell is she talking about? There is no war. There have been no battles, except Euron attacking Yara and Greyworm's ships.

Then we get to Jon wanting Cersei's help with the whitewalkers. This part doesn't make a lot of sense because Jon took such a huge risk for no reason. The entire trek north was all on a whim that Cersei couldn't deny the evidence. She's been a crazy #### for 6 previous seasons, but now she'll see the light. Ok then. Would have made more sense if it was Jaime they were trying to convince to turn on his sister.

But the attraction of these events was clear for the writers. They wanted Jon and his friends in a battle up north, they wanted a reason to have a dragon get killed and they wanted a reason to have a big meeting between Cersei, Dany et al. Not to mention that time in episodes 5/6 becomes completely meaningless. To the point where it is insulting to the viewer. Before they were taking liberties for the sake of storytelling, this however was egregious.

I didn't watch episode 7 yet. Few years down the road when this series is finished and we're looking back on it, I think these episodes will be one of the lower points of the series.

03-12-2018, 10:01 AM	#3604
Cecil Terwilliger That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Springfield Penitentiary Exp:	As it is nearing the usual GoT premiere time, I decided to rewatch season 7. Haven't seen them except when they originally aired. In hindsight, I liked the first 3 or 4 episodes a lot. With the exception of a few minor details about pacing and the order of events (like Jon being in Dragonstone for 3 episodes before they even mention the dragonglass, let alone start mining it). However the oversights in timing weren't a huge deal. I'm ok with imagining that some things were shown a bit out of order to make sure that the overall flow of the story was maintained. But where it really falls apart is when Dany decides to go after Casterly Rock and Cersei tricks her and takes Highgarden. I was ok with the timing and maneuvering in the show, like Euron catching them off guard twice, it's the aftermath. Ok so Tyrion is going to go to King's Landing to recruit Jaime and Cersei because...wait why exactly? Dany says she can't help Jon because of the "war" with Cersei, in which they've fought exactly zero battles. So even if Dany leaves to go help Jon in the North, what exactly happens in the South? She gives up Dragonstone? It is impenetrable, she could easily leave a skeleton crew to protect it. She gives up Casterly Rock? Who cares it was stripped of all resources before the Lannister troops left. So what in the hell is she talking about? There is no war. There have been no battles, except Euron attacking Yara and Greyworm's ships. Then we get to Jon wanting Cersei's help with the whitewalkers. This part doesn't make a lot of sense because Jon took such a huge risk for no reason. The entire trek north was all on a whim that Cersei couldn't deny the evidence. She's been a crazy #### for 6 previous seasons, but now she'll see the light. Ok then. Would have made more sense if it was Jaime they were trying to convince to turn on his sister. But the attraction of these events was clear for the writers. They wanted Jon and his friends in a battle up north, they wanted a reason to have a dragon get killed and they wanted a reason to have a big meeting between Cersei, Dany et al. Not to mention that time in episodes 5/6 becomes completely meaningless. To the point where it is insulting to the viewer. Before they were taking liberties for the sake of storytelling, this however was egregious. I didn't watch episode 7 yet. Few years down the road when this series is finished and we're looking back on it, I think these episodes will be one of the lower points of the series.