People pointing out that the Flames had scrubs in 03-04 as a criticism are missing the relevance of that. There were a bunch of players on that team who not only came out of nowhere that year to fill in and play significant roles but also moved on into higher roles with other teams than ever would have been expected previously. That is a sign of a well-managed and well-lead group, which they were with Sutter. A couple of players were good before Sutter showed up, but a lot of guys learned to be NHL players through being on that team. Good players were also pushed to achieve their greatest potential. Good leadership can do that. Flames are really missing that now in the coaching.
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