everything is always on sale at a bike shop if you are a long time customer who spends enough money - I routinely get a good % off without really asking.
on my last two bikes purchases, we could not come to an agreement on the price of the bike, but then I added in a few accessories, and we came to what was the ultimate price I wanted to pay for the bike and the gear.
just takes time and money to establish a relationship with the hard working staff at your LBS
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