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Old 03-01-2018, 10:26 AM   #3359
Cecil Terwilliger
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Originally Posted by Pointman View Post
You don't have to be smarter than NHL coach to find flaws in NHL's coach system. For example, being as humble as possible about my coaching skills, I can say with sufficient confidence, that GG's slow break outs allow opponents more time to get set. I don't have to be Bowman to figure it out, do I? Now I don't have skills to design a better breakout - well, yes, at best I can only suggest a stretch pass, that surely comes with its own flaws.


It can be probably compared to driving a car. Any experienced driver can point out pros and cons of most design and system concepts with his or anyone's car. Designing his own car, and doing it better, than pros, is a different story.
It isn't about being able to find flaws. We can all find flaws in the players, coaches, officials etc.

It is the idea that CP provides, as you said yourself, superior design to the pros.

If CP posters were better coaches than NHL coaches, then they'd be NHL coaches.

It doesn't invalidate any and all analysis on here (otherwise what the hell are we wasting our time for) but let's not pretend that CP has cracked the code and figured out every nuance about GG and his coaching staff, all the problems and how to fix them. Even the best posts on this forum only begin to scratch the surface. And that's ok, it's better than "ZOMG!! Glue Gun sux!!!".

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Originally Posted by tkflames View Post
The point I was making is that it is predictable and easily analyzed. Items raised by several members here that were finally implemented were highly successful (removing Brouwer from the power play, using Gio & Hamilton instead of Brodie). It is understood that there is a substantial difference between professional coaches and scouts versus the CP braintrust, but to suggest that fans cannot pick up on unsuccessful tendencies of our team (e.g. zone entries for the PP) and mis-use of players is also misleading.

WildGM (I have typed Jiri about 10 times in my last 2 posts) made the argument that CPs arguments are based on anecdotal evidence, hearsay and narratives. My counter point is that this is not true and some posters have taken the time to put together thoughtful and data based responses.
Now you're misrepresenting what I said.

No one said fans can't pick up on it. I'm not even sure why you'd use that as a counterpoint. Fans just aren't providing analysis of a high enough quality to help prove that our coach sucks. Even if a few of their ideas have been successful.

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