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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
You said this:
If the Justice system actually worked.....the police would go down there and arrest every single one in possession of crack/herioin/meth and put them in jail for a few years. Get them clean and give them the tools to be a productive member of society.
While you did mention "giving them the tools", it really is a "round them up and throw them in jail" strategy, and history has proven it doesn't work.
And besides, you can't put someone in prison "for a few years" based on posession of a crack pipe.
Who would pay for this anyway? Rounding up thousands of people, housing them for 3 years and getting them off drugs and training them to do something productive would be a rather expensive proposition. I have no idea how much it would cost, but I have a pretty good idea of who would complain loudest about that cost.
All this talk of statistics is a bunch of blather for the two of us. Neither of us have a clue about "shared doses" or how things work in there. It has been amply demonstrated though that if someone in prison wants drugs, they can get 'em.
And I'm no addictions counsellor, but I don't think you can just force someone to stop being an addict.
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Ok...if you all read my first post on the thread....I said that I agreed with the idea if it works.....there is data to support both sides. It works by reducing disease thru drug use.....I don;t think it really does anything to stop the drug use.
If it is not reducing drug use then these people need to be removed from the streets as I have also said.
Data shows that inmates who have participated in education and employment programs and treatment programs for substance abuse, emotional, mental and sex offence, have a reduced rate of re-incarceration
http://www.justicemonitor.ca/correctionalissues.htm
As for going to jail for possession of a crack pipe......way to split hairs. Most people that have a crack pipe have crack.
SO:
CDSA
(3) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) where the subject-matter of the offence is a substance included in Schedule I
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a) is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding seven years; or
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b) is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable
(i) for a first offence, to a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both, and
(ii) for a subsequent offence, to a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or to both.
7 Years is a long time.
How much do you think it costs society to have these people commit numerous crimes on inoccent people? One murder or aggravated assualt is to much. As for focing someone to quit drugs....you can.....lock them in a room without the drug......once they are over the withdrawl then start working with them. Yes I know it is not that simple....but it does more for them than just providing them a safe place to shoot up