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SuperMatt18 · 02-28-2018, 02:11 PM

To top up he's actually not nearly as bad as ppl would like to think at 5v5 when you look at the Point per 60 metric that normalizes for ice time.

Gaudreau - 2.72
Monahan - 2.46
Ferland - 2.16
Tkachuk - 1.75
Bennett - 1.66
Backlund - 1.5
Hathaway - 1.43
Jankowski - 1.36
Frolik - 1.29

5th on the team behind only the first line and Tkachuk. Better than the rest of our top 9.

Some comparables that I've heard rumored or wanted in trade talks that seem to think are much better players than Bennett are also a very similar points per 60 and are close to his 20 ES points.

Kane - 1.47 - 22 ES Points
Gallagher 1.7 - 22 ES Points
Grabner 1.71 - 21 ES Points
Zuccarello 1.69 - 24 ES Points
Kreider 1.65 - 13 ES Points
Saad 1.63 - 21 ES Points
Hoffman 1.28 - 18 ES Points
Reinhart 1.22 - 16 ES Points

ASIDE: On these last two it's interesting that Nick Shore is at 1.24 P/60 with 12 ES points in LA. AKA we got comparable ES production to Sam Reinhart for a 7th round pick.

It becomes even better when you realize he had no points for the first 15 games. Bennett has his first point on 11/9/2017.

Since that game the ES points per 60 production for the team is:

Gaudreau - 2.69 - 31 points
Monahan - 2.25 - 24 points
Ferland - 2.18 - 22 points
Bennett - 2.11 - 20 points
Tkachuk - 1.63 - 17 points
Jankowski - 1.55 - 16 points
Backlund - 1.48 - 14 points

Comparables to his 2.11 and 20 ES points in the league in that time are: Laine, Larkin, Boeser, Huberdeau, Landeskog, Schenn, Tarasenko, etc. That is even more impressive when you consider his most common linemates in that time are Jankowski, and a bit of a rotating door at RW between Hathaway, Jagr, Lazar, & Brouwer. None of whom you'd consider "top talent".

At ES Sam Bennett has been quite productive after his initial 15 game scoreless drought. It's on the PP where he isn't productive.

Flames only have 8 forwards who have played 60 or more minutes on the PP. Bennett has the lowest point total among that group with 3 PP points. His 2.26 Points per 60 on the PP is by far the lowest on the team as well.

So Sam Bennett is actually pretty good at ES, his real problem is the PP where A) He doesn't get very much PP time to start with, & B) When he does get time our second unit as a whole doesn't produce very well.

02-28-2018, 02:11 PM	#10
SuperMatt18 Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Calgary, AB Exp:	To top up he's actually not nearly as bad as ppl would like to think at 5v5 when you look at the Point per 60 metric that normalizes for ice time. Gaudreau - 2.72 Monahan - 2.46 Ferland - 2.16 Tkachuk - 1.75 Bennett - 1.66 Backlund - 1.5 Hathaway - 1.43 Jankowski - 1.36 Frolik - 1.29 5th on the team behind only the first line and Tkachuk. Better than the rest of our top 9. Some comparables that I've heard rumored or wanted in trade talks that seem to think are much better players than Bennett are also a very similar points per 60 and are close to his 20 ES points. Kane - 1.47 - 22 ES Points Gallagher 1.7 - 22 ES Points Grabner 1.71 - 21 ES Points Zuccarello 1.69 - 24 ES Points Kreider 1.65 - 13 ES Points Saad 1.63 - 21 ES Points Hoffman 1.28 - 18 ES Points Reinhart 1.22 - 16 ES Points ASIDE: On these last two it's interesting that Nick Shore is at 1.24 P/60 with 12 ES points in LA. AKA we got comparable ES production to Sam Reinhart for a 7th round pick. It becomes even better when you realize he had no points for the first 15 games. Bennett has his first point on 11/9/2017. Since that game the ES points per 60 production for the team is: Gaudreau - 2.69 - 31 points Monahan - 2.25 - 24 points Ferland - 2.18 - 22 points Bennett - 2.11 - 20 points Tkachuk - 1.63 - 17 points Jankowski - 1.55 - 16 points Backlund - 1.48 - 14 points Comparables to his 2.11 and 20 ES points in the league in that time are: Laine, Larkin, Boeser, Huberdeau, Landeskog, Schenn, Tarasenko, etc. That is even more impressive when you consider his most common linemates in that time are Jankowski, and a bit of a rotating door at RW between Hathaway, Jagr, Lazar, & Brouwer. None of whom you'd consider "top talent". At ES Sam Bennett has been quite productive after his initial 15 game scoreless drought. It's on the PP where he isn't productive. Flames only have 8 forwards who have played 60 or more minutes on the PP. Bennett has the lowest point total among that group with 3 PP points. His 2.26 Points per 60 on the PP is by far the lowest on the team as well. So Sam Bennett is actually pretty good at ES, his real problem is the PP where A) He doesn't get very much PP time to start with, & B) When he does get time our second unit as a whole doesn't produce very well. Last edited by SuperMatt18; 02-28-2018 at 02:27 PM.