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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
Your post that I quoted dealt directly with muzzle velocity and your concern that "assault style weapons" had a high muzzle velocity.
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9mm rounds can go into the 1,350fps range for +P loads. 9mm FMJ rounds are about 1,000fps. If you move into the .454 Casull rounds, its closer to 2,000fps. FN Five-Seven pistols are about 2,800fps at the muzzle
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I don't know anything more than Wikipedia can tell me, but you seem like you're knowledgeable about guns and that you really appreciate them for the amazing pieces of engineering that they are. And they're "necessary" -- for military/police forces, hunters...and I'll even grant you that self-defense is a legitimate purpose. But since we're talking civilian ownership and access here, I'm going to say that hunting and self-defense are the applicable ones.
Anything beyond what's necessary for those purposes, though, can't be thought of as anything other than a hobby or an indulgence. That includes everything from target-shooting to "gun appreciation" to whatever else these people do with their over-powered weapons. Sure, you *can* use a semi-auto with a 30-round clip for hunting or home defense, but it's disingenuous to claim that you need one for that reason.
So tell me: do you believe that such rifles are
needed in civilian society? Could we not limit civilians to having much less firepower and still allow them to hunt effectively and defend their homes?
I'm not asking if you agree they should be more heavily restricted. I'm asking if you think these things (let's say, 30-round semi-auto rifle) are actually a necessary part of civilian life. It's fair for you to say they're not necessary but still resist further control.*
[Edit*] I did that exact thing in the "drones" thread. Nobody *needs* a recreational drone, and obviously they can be hazardous to planes if misused, but I'm totally pissed at the restrictions put around flying them in Canada. I'm flying a toy in my backyard!