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Old 02-25-2018, 01:13 PM   #4155
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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF! View Post
I agree 100% with all of this video. But I also think there is a scenario where a teacher having a gun would be very helpful. In particular all of those teachers hiding in class rooms with their students would have been well served firing a couple rounds through the door as a way to discourage the shooter from coming in their classroom.
This is the worst strategy you can use. During an active shooter event the three strategies to employ ore Run, Hide, Fight, in that order. RUN away from the source of gun fire. If you can't get outside the building, HIDE. Find a room with a door that locks, get in that room and close the door. Get as far away from the door and windows as you can, and hide in a corner where the gunman will have no way of seeing you. Last resort is to FIGHT. If the gunman forces his way into the room, everyone in it has to swarm him and dogpile. Someone may take a bullet, but the majority will survive the encounter.

As for the firing warning shots through a door, well you just told the gunman that this is a target rich environment worth returning fire. In the situation of a pistol against an AR, the pistol always loses. The gunman can unload through the door blindly and do much more damage. The best strategy is to remain behind the locked door, keep quiet, and hope the gunman will move on. In almost every one of these events it has been reported that the gunman was deterred by a locked door and just headed on down the hall looking for easier targets. Stay hidden, keep quiet, and let the gunman move on looking to satisfy his desire of easy kills.

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Yeah it puts others at risk of getting a random bullet. Of course there are risks in arming half a million teachers in general. But its got to be a helpless feeling knowing your room is next or in line or knowing the shooter is at your door. In no way would I expect a teacher to kill a shooter, but maybe it could work as a way to get some warning shots in your defense.
Not sure if you are aware of this, but warning shots are pretty well illegal. You are responsible for any bullet discharged from your weapon. If you happen to miss the assailant and hit a bystander, you are going to be charged with 2nd degree murder. This is what ever CCW course tells you, and this is how the police will treat you. This is not the movies where the cops come by and shake your hand or give you a mulligan because you missed your target. There are consequences for discharging your weapon, and you are responsible for where that bullet ends up, regardless of circumstances.

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The video only shows one scenario, the ambush or surprise attack. After 5 minutes of shooting I would assume most people not in the first few classrooms would have their wits reclaimed enough to at least draw, load, point and decide if there's a prudent shot to take.
Your performance under pressure is horrendous. Take your average day at the range, find your worst rounds on target, and expect those as your best results. LEOs will shoot 80-90% consistently at the range, but in a stressful situation that falls to 20-30%. In a life or death situation your flight response kicks into over-drive and your faculties start to shut down. Cognitive processing is limited and you ability to differentiate between friend and foe disappears. There is a reason the term "fog of war" exists. There is no gathering of wits in these situations unless this is the situation you are constantly in. These are extreme situations and extreme results are expected. You put a gun in a classroom and expect more dead kids through accidental targeting or getting caught in cross fire. Keep guns the #### out of the classroom!
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