[CaptainCrunch]

So I need to go here, and I'm sorry but I know how I feel about gun control.

But they're talking about the whole denial of weapons for mentally ill people.

but how do we define denial

Actual criminal convictions is suppossed to be a reason to deny right now correct.

But how do we deny based on mental illness.

Do they have to be diagnosed and that on the record? Because I don't think that doctors are required to report a diagnosis of mental illnesses into any database that's accessible for the purpose of approving or denying gun ownership.

How about the phone in complaints? I don't think that has any kind of standing in terms of denying gun ownership, because phone in tips by people cannot ever be a diagnosis, and tips are tips and that's all they are without investigation, so where is that line drawn.

On top of it, are facebook pages a strong basis for denial? People vent and blow off steam, and I'm sure that there are enough stupid people in a day that threaten violence or others. But there's no way to track face book rants.

I think that in order for people to have a proper discussion around denial for reasons of mental illness, there needs to be a discussion around where that line is.

Looking at the current shooter who's name I will not mention. While he had been seeing a therapist, there wasn't a diagnosis on the record, and from listening to his guardians he wasn't taking drugs.

While there were complaints about him being violent, I don't think he'd been convicted of an offence. he'd been kicked out of school, but is that a legal conviction? Not really.

How about the facebook posts and complaints? Where would that go on the record unless we're now talking minority report style law enforcements.

I'm just trying to understand the structure that people want.