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Originally Posted by Itse
You seemed to have missed the point of my argument, which was that the results the depth forwards get has a everything to do with coaching.
Hartley got a lot of points out of a relatively ragtag group because he was a good coach and knew how to utilize them.
Gulutzan gets nothing out of his depth players (that I would argue are actually better), because he's not a good coach.
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I just don't get how anyone could arrive at this answer.
Hartley's 14-15 team (I'm helping you by picking his best season) had everything go right. They were completely outplayed, came from behind, and even when you dig into individual player data you get the lightning in a bottle answer.
The fourth line shot at 12.6%. That's crazy!
The bottom six (3rd, 4th and depth) shot at 8.7% which is above NHL average.
When you look at possession the bottom six had 44% of the shot attempts, 46% of the shots, and 44% of the scoring chances. They got completely owned. The top two lines had slashes of 46/47/44 and 43/46/48, they were also run over in any single metric you'd like to pick.
The Flames this year just can't finish. The team has young players in many key situations and they're not putting the puck in the net despite outplaying the opposition.
17/18 Slashes
1st line - 54/52/55
2nd line - 53/51/54
3rd line - 52/52/55
4th line - 51/51/55
Depth - 48/47/55
That's very consistent, and clearly points to a system and structure that has the team playing well throughout the lineup.
But they can't score ...
Shooting percentages
1st line - 11.2%
2nd line - 11.9%
3rd line - 7.4%
4th line - 3.2%
Depth - 4.2%
Hartley's 14/15 team in comparison ...
Shooting percentages
1st line - 13.5%
2nd line - 12.7%
3rd line - 8.2%
4th line - 12.6%
Depth - 5.6%
Nothing points to Hartley being a better coach.