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Originally Posted by New Era
Tell me you did not just claim +/- is a garbage stat while laying your defense of that statement with “fancy stats” as a basis? +/- is a pretty concrete stat, open to little interpretation. You were either on the ice for a goal scored for or against, or you were not. It is an absolute measure not open to interpretation. Conversely, many of those fancy stats are based on unrelated events, events that are extremely subjective and inconsistent in collection method. All it takes is one group of off ice officials to incorrectly report data - hello Edmonton and Boston - and the data becomes useless. The fact that they link two unrelated events is problematic enough, but the impurity of the data brings the validity of any findings into serious question.
I get why people don’t like +/-. At times it is unfair because a guy gets dinged during a line change. But it is very useful in looking at a team and discovering who is consistently on the ice for more goals against on a consistent basis. It is the batting strikeouts stat of hockey.
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Yes, Plus Minus is a totally useless stat. I didn’t at all say it was open to interpretation, I said it was garbage and useless. Because it is useless and should never be used as evidence of how player has been playing defensively. It is also 100% not the ‘batting strikeouts stat of hockey’, that is a laughably absurd point of view.