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Originally Posted by jonkaupp
No, it’s not just ‘not the greatest stat’ it’s actually a completely useless stat and says absolutely nothing at all. His defensive game has been excellent by any measure that actually matters. You are plainly wrong, period.
And I love when people point to a players ‘goal scoring’ being down when being called on their silly hypocrisy about offensive production being down. Points are points. I guess Gaudreau isn’t as good as a lot of the players with less points than him that are scoring more goals. Hell, now that I think of it there was a thread earlier this year about Johnny’s offensive game being down while he was like 3rd in the league in scoring. Guess this kinda non sense should be expected.
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Tell me you did not just claim +/- is a garbage stat while laying your defense of that statement with “fancy stats” as a basis? +/- is a pretty concrete stat, open to little interpretation. You were either on the ice for a goal scored for or against, or you were not. It is an absolute measure not open to interpretation. Conversely, many of those fancy stats are based on unrelated events, events that are extremely subjective and inconsistent in collection method. All it takes is one group of off ice officials to incorrectly report data - hello Edmonton and Boston - and the data becomes useless. The fact that they link two unrelated events is problematic enough, but the impurity of the data brings the validity of any findings into serious question.
I get why people don’t like +/-. At times it is unfair because a guy gets dinged during a line change. But it is very useful in looking at a team and discovering who is consistently on the ice for more goals against on a consistent basis. It is the batting strikeouts stat of hockey.