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Old 01-31-2018, 04:28 PM   #402
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Originally Posted by Itse View Post
This is ridiculously hyperbolic.

Our depth is perfectly serviceable. It's just that we're a relatively badly coached team, and the depth guys don't have the skill to cover that up.

Much of the point of coaching is getting the most out of what players can do and limiting the harm of what they can't do. This is how you turn a team into more than the sum of it's parts, and this is why the effect of coaching is most often seen in how the depth of the team looks.

When Hartley got the team to the 2nd round, people liked our depth. Go back and look at that roster. It wasn't the quality of players that made our depth look good.

Unless the coaching is truly horrible, stars are going to look good. Skilled players like Gaudreau and Monahan can make even subpar systems work.
Top line and 3M line are obviously legit NHLers. After that you have Bennett and Jankowski, who probably belong to NHL, but are somewhat borderline at this point (I don't want to turn this into Bennett or Jankowski thread, so let's count them in). After that we have guys, who are unable to play at NHL level and their production speaks for itself.

You said that I should go back and look at the depth that Hartley had, so I did. Flames roster for 2015 playoffs was

Gaudreau-Monahan-Hudler
Ferland-Backlund-Jones
Bennett-Stajan-Colbourne
Raymond-Granlund-Jooris
Bouma, Byron, Bollig

That team also had Baertchi and Glencross until trade deadline.
That's way better depth to me, considering that Stajan and Bennett were WAY better than they are now.

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