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Old 01-26-2018, 07:40 AM   #151
Slava
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Originally Posted by chemgear View Post
I'm not hoping for anything. I just recall from the previous thread about the multiple previous allegations that you were ready to dismiss them all because you thought they were all ridiculous and that you knew Hehr. And that the group of women making that accusations looked like they could in fact be making accusations for financial gain.

Again, I'm trying not to be a jerk here but I was kinda surprised and remember asking if I was misinterpreting you.

EDIT: https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...postcount=3415
Right and that was also a different situation? I stand by that thought though. Once that group stated that they would only accept an apology in the event that the government paid them it became clear what the underlying issue really was.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that I can change my position or make decisions on what I would condone based on the circumstances. I do have a lot of issues with this "sexual misconduct" because I think that the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. What I mean is that for years there were all kinds of dirtbags taking all kinds of liberties with women, and that situation was accepted and condoned for far too long. Now we have an opposite scenario brewing where men are accused, tried in the media and punished immediately. Case in point; Kent was accused on twitter and "resigned" from cabinet within 24 hours for allegedly calling someone "yummy" about a decade ago. My personal opinion is that this is extremely heavy-handed.

I do want to note though, that it's really not my decision to make on who gets offended about what. So while my personal opinion as a white male individual, is kind of "sticks and stones" the truth is that I know women who just plain sick and tired of the antics of men in general. I struggle with this because I think that when I read a news story about an "unwanted advance" I think to myself...geez, I wonder if the time I awkwardly leaned in to kiss that girl and she rebuffed me is now considered some kind of sexual misconduct? But you know...times have changed. While I think guys like me were the norm and we were kind of fumbling, shy and somewhat modest, it's different. Guys don't take "no" for an answer unless the girl has a boyfriend or husband. Single girls can say "no" and men in general think that allows permission to try to grind them down or something like that.

tldr; I'm somewhat conflicted here. I know that there are a lot of guys out there who just think that they can do whatever they want in their unending quest to conquer women. At the same time do I think that a federal cabinet minister should effectively have his career ruined because he called someone "yummy" a decade ago? It seems a bit much.
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