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Old 01-23-2018, 07:15 PM   #78
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Given the knowledge that a tip out exists if you go to a restaurant and don't tip enough to cover tip out you are stealing from this person.
This is simply crazy. I can understand some people seeing it this way, it doesn't make it true or correct. Social pressure forces us to tip, and with the wages changes taking place, it might be time for society to throw this silly system out. Charge us what you will and let the invisible hand do the rest. Don't make us out to be thieves.


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If you are gleefully unaware of how the restaurant industry works than you just are ignorant and should educate yourself.
Someone who is gleefully unaware is ignorant by definition of the words. However, most of us know how the restaurant industry works and thinks much of it is stupid.

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If you speings1 someone over a lack of ranch dressing and they have to pay to serve you you are stealing from them.
LOL. Like I said, I tip very well (25% just the other night), but it is social pressure that makes me do it. I don't agree with it at all.

Hopefully a trend begins (soon) where the prices are set so staff are paid their fair share without tips, and people working in the industry don't look at those people who their livelihoods depend on as thieves and ignoramuses.

These debates are all the same and so silly. The restaurant owners simply don't pay enough and have somehow maintained this crazy system, and the staff eat it up. Where do we draw the line? Tipping at McDonalds? Already happening. Liquor stores? Yup! How about a doctor's appointment? That receptionist could certainly use the money. You bet this is ALL ABOUT NOT PAYING TAXES.

Pay people what they deserve, raise your rates and let the market sort itself out. And pay your taxes.
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