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Originally Posted by Looger
couldn't disagree more.
vague estimates from human rights organizations put the direct death tolls from CIA operations in the last 50 years at 5 million to WAY more.
not to mention machinations like operation ajax that directly lead to 'problems' we have to deal with today.
the KGB was very very bad but they cannot even come close to the death toll and the foreign insanity that the CIA can claim. and that's all declassified, out in the open.
there's plenty of crap that may or may not see the light of day.
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I really love the term vaugue estimates, I'd love to see the 5 million death tolls broken down by operations. To me its like the butterfly effect, if somebody dies of the flu in Iraq, its counted as a direct effect of the CIA or the American Military.
And I can assure you if your counting deaths then the KGB would vauguly be responsible for more then 40 million direct deaths through the direct suppression of dissidents in thier own home county, the supression of dissidents in the warsaw pact countries. The open assasinations of foreign intellects, the suspected involvement in the assasination attempt of the pope. Beria's ability to arrest and torture confessions out of innocent people and the exterminations of thier families.Kryuchkov the head of the KGB's involvement in the 1991 coup attemp.
Your right the CIA isn't flying with the angels, but there is no comparison between the CIA and the evil that was perpetrated by the KGB both internally and world wide.