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Hockeyboy2 · 01-15-2018, 09:54 AM

The last two stories identify that there are two different issue going on here, I am also glad that this has been articulated so well by people on the last two pages.

1. Abuses of power such as the James Franco story, clearly abuses of power from anyone is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. I personally think trading or imposing sexual favors on women or men for future career success is appalling.

2. Women who condemn men for stepping outside their preconceived zone of being. For example this woman went on a date with Aziz Ansari who lets be honest is not "lover" category but rather "provider" or comical funny "friend". Women do not want to do sexual things with men that they are unsure about on the first date, even if they do indeed act there is always a little voice in the back of their heads saying "hey this isn't quite right because I'm not that attracted to this man". These women then leave the encounter feeling regret for what happened. With the climate the way it is right now, these women now have a platform to lash out at men for doing things consensually with these men that they are not that attracted too. Aziz was simply trying to act as a lover when this woman clearly did not perceive him as a lover.

I am so glad that a lot of people have disagreed with me over my original post because it has brought a lot of good discussion, it was something that needed to be brought up especially given the contrast between the last two stories, one of James Franco (abuse of power) and one of Aziz Ansari (Not sure what to label it as yet).

Someone who vehemently disagreed with my original post did say that I nailed it when I replied that abuses of power against these women are unacceptable and I am glad he said that because yes on that issue that is exactly correct.

The unfortunate story shared about Aziz Ansari though definitely speaks to what I was talking about in my post though. You can agree or disagree its all good, I just think whether you do agree or disagree this is a part of this important topic that should be discussed.

01-15-2018, 09:54 AM	#915
Hockeyboy2 Crash and Bang Winger Join Date: Feb 2005 Exp:	The last two stories identify that there are two different issue going on here, I am also glad that this has been articulated so well by people on the last two pages. 1. Abuses of power such as the James Franco story, clearly abuses of power from anyone is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. I personally think trading or imposing sexual favors on women or men for future career success is appalling. 2. Women who condemn men for stepping outside their preconceived zone of being. For example this woman went on a date with Aziz Ansari who lets be honest is not "lover" category but rather "provider" or comical funny "friend". Women do not want to do sexual things with men that they are unsure about on the first date, even if they do indeed act there is always a little voice in the back of their heads saying "hey this isn't quite right because I'm not that attracted to this man". These women then leave the encounter feeling regret for what happened. With the climate the way it is right now, these women now have a platform to lash out at men for doing things consensually with these men that they are not that attracted too. Aziz was simply trying to act as a lover when this woman clearly did not perceive him as a lover. I am so glad that a lot of people have disagreed with me over my original post because it has brought a lot of good discussion, it was something that needed to be brought up especially given the contrast between the last two stories, one of James Franco (abuse of power) and one of Aziz Ansari (Not sure what to label it as yet). Someone who vehemently disagreed with my original post did say that I nailed it when I replied that abuses of power against these women are unacceptable and I am glad he said that because yes on that issue that is exactly correct. The unfortunate story shared about Aziz Ansari though definitely speaks to what I was talking about in my post though. You can agree or disagree its all good, I just think whether you do agree or disagree this is a part of this important topic that should be discussed. Last edited by Hockeyboy2; 01-15-2018 at 09:58 AM.