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Old 01-03-2018, 10:34 PM   #633
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
Being a credible team has absolutely nothing to do with how long you keep coaches. Credible teams hired the right coach in the first place. The Penguins skipped a beat when they hired the wrong guy in Johnston. Rather than waste another season or two of Crosby & Malkin’s prime hoping for their coach to turn it around they cut bait, got a better coach and won two cups opposed to zero they would have won under Johnston.

Look I haven't been overly posting in this thread of late because I don't want to beat the same drum and recycle the same crap but lets take a look at the roster today compared to when Treliving took over. It looks considerably better on paper today so you can argue he's done a commendable job improving the talent year over year. The issue is that while better on paper we simply haven't seen the results on the ice consistently. Maybe myself and others (including the GM who traded his 2018 futures for a veteran defenseman) overrated the talent of the team to an extent but I do know this roster is too good to be toiling with the likes of the Canucks, Oilers, Avalanche in the standings and it's too good to be a below .500 team 5 on 5 for the past two seasons. Even the most optimistic of fans surely must realize that it's not working and something has to change.
I don’t disagree. BT would tell you he hired the right guy at the time, after blowing a season on BH who was also not the right guy according to our gm.

By firing GG, BT undermines himself. If GG is the wrong guy, fine. But so too was BH and after an extensive search GG was BT’s boy. I’m not sure he can keep blaming the coach. His own record is not perfect after all.

My point was that in order to attract managerial talent your team needs to show it gives people time. Or you end up with unproven guys like BT and GG and lifestyle execs like BB. So firing GG likely results in a less experienced GG type guy. A more senior guy won’t come in with the whole KK and BB thing hanging over them. So we got these guys because of all the weirdness that preceded them. Therefore ditching GG and maybe BT gets you exactly where we were a few years ago.

So it’s a more profound mess than just the coach. It might actually be better to get rid of all the guys that hired the wrong undererlings. Maybe this should be a top to bottom exec housecleaning.

I think BT does the safe thing and stays the course. Protecting himself in the process. He needs to work even harde to make his boy successful.
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