[ernie]

The Finn-Rose subplot was part of Poe’s growth. He lost all the bombers and numerous lives and it didn’t bother him. He was busted down some ranks and still he thought he was right. He set up the Finn-Rose mission by agreeing to it and clearing the way with some help from his friends.

How did it work out? They failed and in their failure exposed the escape pods. More lives lost that could have been saved. He needed the bomber loss and the losses of the defenseless escape pods to figure it out enough to call the speeders off and become a leader. After watching a second time the movie does not hang together without that subplot. Well not unless you also massively changed a bunch of stuff happening before. That subplot whether believable or not set up the line from rose which was the theme they were looking for...saving what you love rather than fighting what you hate.

I urge people to see it a second time because when you do I think you’ll see how everything hangs together. Now that says something to how they edited the movie that it can missed the first time but I digress.... I enjoyed the first time and enjoyed it much more the second time.

I don’t really understand the complaints that things were set up by Abrams only to be ignored. I don’t agree. Abrams set up Snoke as the Master and Ren as apprentice. Nothing more. Fans set up Snoke as the new emperor and Ren as the new Vader who wouldn’t take on his master. They want things different but exactly the same! This time around the master was taken out by the apprentice because of the apprentices ambition rather than a move to the light. The apprentice becomes the master and immediately tries to recruit his own apprentice by trying to get her to submit to her own anger/feelings. To me that was much more satisfying.

The parents thing may or may not be true. All we know is that to Ren they are nothing and that’s likely true. It also serves as his leverage to try to get her to turn. And they may be nothing. Why does their need to be a bloodline? It’s not necessary.

Luke served his purpose. They found him. He was expectedly disgruntled but in the end played hero and became one with the force. I again fail to see why that’s a bad thing. This was meant to be a passing of the torch from the old generation to the new and they e been effective in doing that IMO of course.