Thought it was a good enough movie, maybe a little long and some parts drawn out where others felt short and choppy. The whole Luke and Rey on the Island thing was a bit disjointed with all the cuts, maybe some more training and wisdom being passed down? It all felt very impersonal with zero chemistry.
I wish they'd just try to consciously leave old ideas behind though. The first 5 minutes felt like Empire, even the crawl led into it. Then you have Ren the apprentice bringing the young Jedi to see his master, then betray and kill him. Where did that happen before? hrmmm...It wasn't convincingly built up why Ren had the motivation to do that, either. Logically and emotionally, it didn't fit at all with his arc.
A lot of it was great, a lot mediocre. I did like that Rey is a no one. Trying to shoe horn her into the Skywalker legacy would have made the universe smaller. At least they have room for rando's to be strong with the force now going forward, that is a good thing. And I think they left Snoke as a one off so they can do a filler movie from between episode 6 and 7 where he gets his ass kicked at the end to explain his current look. Which is fine, I guess. Maybe he could have been used more in the future, but since we don't know where they take the story and if he would have had any value, I'm fine with him gone, being a "nobody".
I don't understand Leia, the whole space witch thing was goofy as hell. We know Carrie Fisher is dead, that would have been a great scene to have her exit stage left. She served no purpose for the rest of the movie, so now we know she is going to be a digital farce in the next episode. Baffling.
I didn't read this whole thread, so maybe this has already been talked to death.
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