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Originally Posted by GGG
I don't understand how this addresses my statement.
This movie and VII told me that Snoke was close the parents of Jedi Master Luke Skywalkwr and Rebelliom heroes Han and Leia. He had acces to the child of the 2 most famous people in the galaxy. Luke could see this happening.
And your telling me it doesn't matter who he was or where he came from or why Luke didn't deal with him earlier.
This I didn't know this about the emperor so I don't need to know about Snoke is a bad analogy. The knowledge of the universe has changed since these two stories were told. Bland uninspired Villians is a problem in current fantasy storytelling.
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Nothing about these movies suggested that Snoke was close to any of those characters. No idea where you got that from. It wasn’t even hinted at in either movie.
Pretty simple. After the collapse of the empire things didn’t go as smoothly as Luke and Leia planned. Not everyone lived happily ever after. Instead what happened is that the power vacuum created invited another evil Sith to just fill that role that the emperor had.
Leia kept on fighting and luke tried to raise a new era of Jedi to turn the tide. When the evil leader of the new empire called the first order managed to outmaneuver Luke and steal his best pupil, Luke gave up and went into hiding. This also ruined Han and Leia’s marriage. How did Snoke do it? Well Yoda hinted it was because Luke has a tendency to not see things right in front of him and be overconfident.
Was Snoke right there in hiding right in front of Luke? Doubtful. I’m guessing he did it from a distance or with help. Is there an interesting story there? Maybe. But some things are best not shown, just referenced or hinted at. We learned what happens when you answer these questions when Lucas tried to answer all the questions about vader’s backstory.
There. All explained. And all stuff I was able to fill in from watching the actual movies we’ve seen. Pretty much exactly how I picture the filmmakers intended us to fill in those gaps. And I know they didn’t show us all this because all the main actors had aged 40 years and they couldn’t show it all. They needed to just skip ahead and trust the audience could fill in those gaps.