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Originally Posted by DiracSpike

I don't know, I might be out on these new movies. They're just...missing something and they use access to old characters like a crutch that taps into people's nostalgia and masks a lot of warts and issues.

They could have, and should have, cut that entire Rose Finn storyline. It was horrible, and served no purpose at all. Like at all, nothing came from that. It was a shame that Rey getting trained by Luke, which explores a timeless theme of Star Wars which is the mentor-mentee relationship, was cut short to see those two ride space horses and escape from space jail. It was terrible IMO, I was hoping those two would both get burnt up by the space cannon.
And then there were just weird random sequences, like checking in with that little alien while she was running around with a union dispute. Was anyone clamouring for any time with her? Who cares. Leia floating through space was terrible and corny. Most of the humour fell flat I think.
Luke Rey and kylo were the strongest aspects of this movie, it's a shame that it couldn't have been 90% about them. I liked that Rey's parents were nobodies in paupers graves, not everyone has to be related, greatness can come from anywhere and anyone and I was really hoping she wouldn't be Luke's daughter or something stupid like that. Snoke existed just to serve kylos arc which I'm perfectly happy with
Overall I just think these movies are weak and lacking, if they didn't have a lot of the characters from the the original movie I think a lot of people would put them in league with the prequels. For these last two movies it bugs me that they just reset the empire vs rebellion but with different names, even though they just have up half way through this one and started calling the resistance the rebellion. I think it would've been cooler if they had reestablished the republic and the bad guys were the upstart rebel force in these ones. I find myself not even caring about ep 9 now

I enjoy the movies but I could not agree more with your last paragraph. I've always thought the whole First Order vs Resistance thing was a lazy rehash.