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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
I think there's the opposite as well: the tend for a lot of people to gloss over a lot of the issues with it (and there are a lot) because Star Wars!
I really feel like this won't be looked at nearly as favorably by a lot of people as the hype dies down and people see it more than once.
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Depends.
A lot of this big complaints revolve around the handling of Snoke's death/history, & Rey's parentage not being revealed.
IMO those will actually be less impactful complaints on second viewing. The reason it's so jarring upon the first watch is because people hyped up these huge reveals in their head for 2 years and when nothing happened it was an immediate disappointment.
Some more takes from me personally
- Loved the handling of Luke and the reveal that he was the final push that turned Kylo to the darkside. The way they lighted up Luke when Kylo was talking about it really made it seem like Luke had turned dark.
-Unlike others I liked the plot for Rose/Finn. Fits with the them they are trying to build here (and in Rogue One). Anybody can be a hero, you don't need to be a force user, just "Hope" and believe in good.
-The Casino felt very Star Wars to me - interesting to see a "Rich" side of Star Wars though since usually it's about the poorer and worn down towns and cities.
-Leia: Didn't hate her force pulling herself back to the ship but think the whole thing was more impactful for Kylo's story if she dies there. He hesitates to pull the trigger and in the end it doesn't matter - would have been one more angle driving him to darkness.
-Rey: Liked her a lot in this movie and I feel like the story of her parentage is not over yet. Although if what Kylo said was true then I have no issue with it. In order to expand the universe Disney needs to plant the seed that in order to use the "force" you don't need to be a Skywalker or Kenobi, this movie really sets that up and for the better in the long run.
-Kylo: probably the biggest positive from movie to movie. Good character growth. Just enough teasing of him turning to the light, and then in the end he starts to show his full decline into anger and the darkness.
-Finn: Some good character development for him here as well. Evolved from just trying to survive to being willing to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the rebels.
-Snoke: Probably the biggest miss. No issue with him dying but a little more story on who he was and how he manipulated Kylo was needed. Maybe that comes to light in Episode 9 but they didn't expand on that set up enough.
Overall for me the biggest complaints was the ending dragged on, and that it didn't leave enough "unknowns" for Episode 9. Showing the reunion of everyone embracing on the Falcon was unneeded, and felt shoehorned in just so they can get the Chewy/Leia embrace they missed in TFA.
I think I may like it better on second watch. There was a lot going on there and I think it was easy to miss a lot of the small intricacies and details.
One thing that I already read online that I didn't notice at the time was that the Halogram Luke wasn't leaving footprints or kicking up red salt. They placed such an emphasis on that, that it surprised me that I missed it when he first walked out.