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ThaBrink · 12-15-2017, 12:16 AM

I do agree that he would be a good fit, but what are we giving up?

I don't want to give up more draft picks. We've already given too many up.

That leaves roster players or prospects.

For roster players I don't see who goes back. Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Bennett, Jankowski are untouchable imo. That leaves Backlund, Ferland or Frolik for forwards who have some value. You don't want to mess with Backlund Frolik chemistry. Unless the flames are positive they can't re-sign Backlund, which I can't see happening. Then you can mention Ferland but I'm not really sure. He can bring the physical element which is great when he's on. But I think that the flames value Ferland more than any other team would, as his production isn't proven yet.

Then we work our way to defense. Giordano isn't going anywhere. We just got Hamonic so I can't see him going anywhere. Kulak has little value. Stone is a good fit here. That leaves Brodie & Hamilton who are more valuable to the flames than Hoffman would be.

Prospect wise, I'm not sure I'm comfortable giving up what they're going to want. IF they decide to firesale and let everyone go, they'll be rebuilding and be wanting picks & young prospects. We don't have enough picks, and we have some decent prospects in the system but you don't want to be trading away good young prospects if you want to build a continuously competitive team. Look at Chicago and Pittsburgh. They have their stars, and then surround them young cheap talent. Mangiapane will be good once he comes up. Klimchuk & Poirier aren't proven enough and I doubt we get anything worthwhile back, so I'd rather keep them. Then you've got Valimaki, Dube, Kylington, Andersson. I think if there's one area we can sacrifice it would be one of our young defensive prospects. So if they would do a trade 1 for 1 for Kylington or Andersson I MIGHT consider it. But then where does he slot?

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland / Hoffman
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Jankowski - Ferland / Hoffman / Jagr / Hathaway
Brouwer - Lazar - Ferland / Jagr / Hathaway
EXTRAS: Stajan / Hathaway / Jagr
Then
Giordano - Hamilton
Brodie - Hamonic
Stone - Kulak
EXTRA: Bartkowski

Smith
Rittich

That would assume we send Freddie down which is fine.

I'm not sure how much that improves everything, not to mention you're then benching Hathaway (probably) even though he's earned a spot.

12-15-2017, 12:16 AM	#12
ThaBrink Backup Goalie Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Kamloops, B.C. Exp:	I do agree that he would be a good fit, but what are we giving up? I don't want to give up more draft picks. We've already given too many up. That leaves roster players or prospects. For roster players I don't see who goes back. Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Bennett, Jankowski are untouchable imo. That leaves Backlund, Ferland or Frolik for forwards who have some value. You don't want to mess with Backlund Frolik chemistry. Unless the flames are positive they can't re-sign Backlund, which I can't see happening. Then you can mention Ferland but I'm not really sure. He can bring the physical element which is great when he's on. But I think that the flames value Ferland more than any other team would, as his production isn't proven yet. Then we work our way to defense. Giordano isn't going anywhere. We just got Hamonic so I can't see him going anywhere. Kulak has little value. Stone is a good fit here. That leaves Brodie & Hamilton who are more valuable to the flames than Hoffman would be. Prospect wise, I'm not sure I'm comfortable giving up what they're going to want. IF they decide to firesale and let everyone go, they'll be rebuilding and be wanting picks & young prospects. We don't have enough picks, and we have some decent prospects in the system but you don't want to be trading away good young prospects if you want to build a continuously competitive team. Look at Chicago and Pittsburgh. They have their stars, and then surround them young cheap talent. Mangiapane will be good once he comes up. Klimchuk & Poirier aren't proven enough and I doubt we get anything worthwhile back, so I'd rather keep them. Then you've got Valimaki, Dube, Kylington, Andersson. I think if there's one area we can sacrifice it would be one of our young defensive prospects. So if they would do a trade 1 for 1 for Kylington or Andersson I MIGHT consider it. But then where does he slot? Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland / Hoffman Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik Bennett - Jankowski - Ferland / Hoffman / Jagr / Hathaway Brouwer - Lazar - Ferland / Jagr / Hathaway EXTRAS: Stajan / Hathaway / Jagr Then Giordano - Hamilton Brodie - Hamonic Stone - Kulak EXTRA: Bartkowski Smith Rittich That would assume we send Freddie down which is fine. I'm not sure how much that improves everything, not to mention you're then benching Hathaway (probably) even though he's earned a spot.