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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Then you suggest that staying in the position and accepting the sexual assault is what she should do? Tell me, what are these women supposed to do, given the situation?
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Now who's putting words in someone's mouth?
No Fuzz, I wouldn't suggest they stay in the position.
The point is what you are doing, namely stating what you think these women should have done, isn't helpful, and is pretty insensitive.
I'm not suggesting what these women should have done becuase NO ONE should be suggesting what these women SHOULD have done.
Do you honestly think telling victims what they should have done is productive?
Do you honestly think that having another man tell them what they should have done is the best way to foster an environment where women feel comfortable coming forward?
A few people have already said it, but the big problem here is that too man men, including you, are focusing on what the women did or didn't do, instead of what happened to them and how we can prevent it further.
A few questions you asked/statements you made: (quoted directly, so you don't get angry about someone putting words in your mouth)
How do you put up with that for 3 years?
Shouldn't this have gone to HR on week one?
I would like to think that HR would protect the interest of the company by not having a sexual predator on staff.
TLDR; women gets harassed at work, files complaint to boss Jason Nixon, gets fired, and she takes them to court for damages and wins. Which is kinda what I was thinking the NFL women should have done,
but how would things ever change if no one came forward?
I'm in no way saying it is her fault, and I understand all the things that may work against her if she came forward, but the alternative sounds pretty tough to live with.
The only one of those statements that isn't explicitly questioning what the woman did is the last one, and it finishes with a pretty big "But". Think about that, you say it's not her fault, then you outline why you think you know better than her, does that sound like something an empathetic person would say?
Do you think you sound like the kind of person you would want to go to for help?