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Originally Posted by Bunk

A) the deal he supported did include public money - speaking of dichotomies- yours is a false one, not supporting 100% public funding does not equal no public funding. The Mayor has stated repeatedly the City didn’t table a final offer and will return to the table whenever the Flames want to.

Never said it did...why would you even claim such? His dichotomy is trying to say the city cannot afford the deal the Flames proposed to them, whilst trying to BS us that the Olympics are possible at some lower cost? Give me a break.

B) hosting an Olympics is contingent on a good deal from the IOC to make sure it’s financially sustainable. This has been made clear many times.

Uh huh. Excuse me if I don't think such a deal exists, while also thinking that he will sell any deal as a good one because he will be getting funding (maybe) from provincial and federal levels.

C) Calgary has Uber. Capitulating to every demand, particularly a company like Uber is not in the public interest. It took a little longer, but a good deal is better than a bad deal done quickly.

A little longer? LOL..over 2 years Bunk. Somehow every major city in the world was able to integrate ride sharing in their city as soon as it was available. This BS of hiding behind some faux safety reasoning is and has been long blown out of the water as nothing more than politicking at its finest...something he has really become quite good at. I dont buy everything out of his mouth and this particular issue was the first one where it was plain as day to me how full of himself he had become. If he doesn't want something, it's not happening regardless of reasoning until the public pressure becomes unrelenting.

D) the City doesn’t have much to do with McMahon. Owned by the University and therefore the Province. The City could participate, but certainly not the obvious choice to lead on a project that’s not really their jurisdiction.

Yeah i am quite familiar with who owns McMahon and who the owners are of the major tenant there. You see what I believe, is that the idea of CalgaryNEXT was a great one. Maybe the rendering and all that went along with it was subpar, well in fact it was, but the IDEA was brilliant. Thinking outside the box/norm as it were. What did his highness ever say about that part of the project? Nothing. Like it never existed, cause in his mind it was a non starter....so it never started.

Nenshi has made it clear he has one location, and one location only, for his vision of one new arena. Hell, he launched his re-election campaign with it. Victoria Park or bust! And no where was there any room for a new home for amateur sports, the Stamps or anyone else that could use it.

No where in that plan was a field house or anything else that his supposed partners (CSEC) proposed in their initial offerings. It's pretty easy to see why that relationship soured to the point it did and from both sides.

I am not here to advocate for full public funding on anything that will be used mainly by private enterprise. However, I am also not going to sit here and be sucked into how Nenshi only has the best interests of Calgary on his behalf, because if that is true, the Olympics would be as much of a non-starter as any project involving the CSEC. That's not what is happening.

The Olys are his legacy project...period. You can spin it and try to sell it any way you like, but I'm not gullible enough to buy it. I have a feeling a majority in Calgary aren't either.

As others have said in this very thread, if we can afford to bring the Olympics back (which i would love as 88 was as good a time/feeling Calgary ever experienced collectively) then the city can afford an arena deal like the Flames have proposed with a few tweaks and changes here and there.

It makes NO sense to build an arena for the Olys without the input of the tenant you then want occupying it for the following 3 decades, but that is where the negotiations have gotten too. Why would the Flames do anything he wants them to do....now? I can see where they just sit back and say...go ahead and build your arena with none of our money, and then when the olympics are over we will sit down and negotiate a lease against your other major tenant...lol...how does that deal look for the city at that point?