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bubbsy · 12-05-2017, 08:55 AM

It's unfortunate, but the cap world and the team lifecycle it has inherently created, makes it easy to be fed-up/give-up.

Basically every team eventually bottoms out, and goes into the rebuild stage of ~3 years: stock piles high picks for a few years to create their 'core' and then builds around that core for X years (~3-5).

The team will evolve during these years into a
a) perennial playoff contender,
b) nothing the core's never good enough leaving the team spinning circles in the building stage for years,
c) for a very few, they will become cup contenders for a couple years within X.

X Years usually end where the team devolves into a, and eventually b triggering going back to a rebuild.

As a fan, you're basically looking at the cycle to last about 7-10 years. If your team has completed the rebuild, and is stuck in the a-b realm, you are stuck at and need to wait for the cycle to complete again.

Being a family man, 2 young kids, i have little free time, but i have made sacrifices to ensure i organize my free time allowing me to be a full time flames fan.
Ugh, i'm 36, do i emotionally invest in, what could be, another decade to see an actual playoff team (not just bubble team year after year)? On top of that, I don't even live in calgary anymore, so the arena debate doesn't actually affect my bottom line, yet, it pisses me off to no end on where the team and the city have arrived at so far, and the threat of relocation looping.

The goodwill raised by Treliving seriously has dwindled. I'd be ok to consider this year another year of growth and the challenges that come with that. For him to spend our first rounder, and the next 2 year's second rounders is a big problem, and a severe miscalculation on his part.

The only move he has in his arsenal is to have confidence in the roster he's put together and put the lack of results on the coach (ie. give him the boot). Or he rides out his roster, and his coaching hire into the offseason and suffer the consequences.

Mind you, this isn't the first time a burke led team (once as GM, and now as president or whatever his role is called) has given up high picks far too early in a rebuild thinking they are in the clear to take the next step as a playoff/cup contender.

12-05-2017, 08:55 AM	#467
bubbsy Franchise Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Exp:	It's unfortunate, but the cap world and the team lifecycle it has inherently created, makes it easy to be fed-up/give-up. Basically every team eventually bottoms out, and goes into the rebuild stage of ~3 years: stock piles high picks for a few years to create their 'core' and then builds around that core for X years (~3-5). The team will evolve during these years into a a) perennial playoff contender, b) nothing the core's never good enough leaving the team spinning circles in the building stage for years, c) for a very few, they will become cup contenders for a couple years within X. X Years usually end where the team devolves into a, and eventually b triggering going back to a rebuild. As a fan, you're basically looking at the cycle to last about 7-10 years. If your team has completed the rebuild, and is stuck in the a-b realm, you are stuck at and need to wait for the cycle to complete again. Being a family man, 2 young kids, i have little free time, but i have made sacrifices to ensure i organize my free time allowing me to be a full time flames fan. Ugh, i'm 36, do i emotionally invest in, what could be, another decade to see an actual playoff team (not just bubble team year after year)? On top of that, I don't even live in calgary anymore, so the arena debate doesn't actually affect my bottom line, yet, it pisses me off to no end on where the team and the city have arrived at so far, and the threat of relocation looping. The goodwill raised by Treliving seriously has dwindled. I'd be ok to consider this year another year of growth and the challenges that come with that. For him to spend our first rounder, and the next 2 year's second rounders is a big problem, and a severe miscalculation on his part. The only move he has in his arsenal is to have confidence in the roster he's put together and put the lack of results on the coach (ie. give him the boot). Or he rides out his roster, and his coaching hire into the offseason and suffer the consequences. Mind you, this isn't the first time a burke led team (once as GM, and now as president or whatever his role is called) has given up high picks far too early in a rebuild thinking they are in the clear to take the next step as a playoff/cup contender. Last edited by bubbsy; 12-05-2017 at 08:57 AM.