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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
What I am saying is this:
If underlyings excuse Hamilton's imperfections, why do they not excuse the fact that Brodie is consistently saddled with anchors who consistently post poor underlyings. And yes, I do think they do both of those things. That's my point. Hamilton is a good player, and Brodie is a good player. Giordano is a good player. The three of these guys do not constitute a top four defense, because there are only three of them.
Agree to disagree. Brodie is making Hamonic better right now by constantly covering for all the times teams attack the right side of the ice - the results are not there because of just how often teams target Hamonic. He made Stone much better last year. He made Russell much better two seasons ago. He made Engelland much better three seasons ago.
Fact is, Brodie can't make non-NHLers (2017 Wideman, Butler, Jokipakka) into top 4 NHLers. He can't make bottom pair defensemen (Russell, Engelland, Stone, Hamonic) into legitimate top 4 defensemen. But neither can Giordano, neither could Hamilton. Those are unrealistic standards. Giordano couldn't make Wideman work last year either. Hamilton couldn't make Jokipakka or Russell work either.
Brodie makes his partners better - he doesn't work miracles.
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That's where we disagree. I think Hamilton's imperfections are baseless. There seems to be a faction of people who feel like because Hamilton isn't as physical as they think he could be that it makes him a soft player and they focus on that saying that he's no good because he doesn't hit enough or take the body. The thing is every measurable stat suggests he thrives playing the style that he does. I've never seen any actual facts or data that back up the negative opinions that people seem to have of him.
I'm also just not sure how brodie is making hamonic a better player either. Honestly I don't know if hamonics metrics are better or worse now that he's playing with brodie, but outside of getting points on the PP Brodies numbers are pretty bad this year.