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Cecil Terwilliger · 11-25-2017, 02:23 PM

It's weird how people think that they will somehow convince others that they have a more accurate opinion of the coaching staff by posting mindless drivel and insults worthy of five year olds about the coaching staff. This applies to pretty much every situation where opinions on the coaching staff and personnel diverge.

I wonder what makes people think that this type of argument will prove convincing. Do you think if you act cocky/idiotic enough people will be too embarrassed to disagree? Perhaps you feel that by going all agro it'll convince people that your fake confidence is real.

Either way, it's not working. In fact, I'm inclined to automatically disagree with obviously juvenile insults towards either our coaching staff or people who disagree.

As for actual analysis, coaching is probably one of the most difficult areas for fans to evaluate. We have no idea whether the players are lazy/unskilled/too dumb to play the way they are taught and even if that is the case we tend to have an expectation that it is the coaches responsibility to overcome those deficits and ensure the team overachieves.

Some of the greatest coaches of all time have lost the room or failed to extract results from talented rosters. Beyond that, we then have to think about whether or not our roster does have the talent necessary to compete at the level we expect. For all we know GG is the next Scotty Bowman and he's already getting this group to perform above their talent level.

And that's not even including things like parity, bias, luck and general lack of knowledge/information among the fanbase. Heck, I'd argue that evaluating players based solely on what we see on TV is at best 60-70% as effective as watching in person (from a birds eye vantage point).

I'm not convinced that the talent GG is working with is as strong a roster as we tend to give them credit for and I'm also not convinced that GG is getting as much as he can out of each player. Yes, both those things can be true.

Even if he gets fired tomorrow and another coach takes over, there's no way to know for sure if the new coach is the one who is responsible for any improvement in results. There's about 20 different things that factor into the equation that could affect how the team performs and the results they get. And if the players perform worse under the new coach, then what? We gonna bring back GG?

11-25-2017, 02:23 PM	#1119
Cecil Terwilliger That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Springfield Penitentiary Exp:	It's weird how people think that they will somehow convince others that they have a more accurate opinion of the coaching staff by posting mindless drivel and insults worthy of five year olds about the coaching staff. This applies to pretty much every situation where opinions on the coaching staff and personnel diverge. I wonder what makes people think that this type of argument will prove convincing. Do you think if you act cocky/idiotic enough people will be too embarrassed to disagree? Perhaps you feel that by going all agro it'll convince people that your fake confidence is real. Either way, it's not working. In fact, I'm inclined to automatically disagree with obviously juvenile insults towards either our coaching staff or people who disagree. As for actual analysis, coaching is probably one of the most difficult areas for fans to evaluate. We have no idea whether the players are lazy/unskilled/too dumb to play the way they are taught and even if that is the case we tend to have an expectation that it is the coaches responsibility to overcome those deficits and ensure the team overachieves. Some of the greatest coaches of all time have lost the room or failed to extract results from talented rosters. Beyond that, we then have to think about whether or not our roster does have the talent necessary to compete at the level we expect. For all we know GG is the next Scotty Bowman and he's already getting this group to perform above their talent level. And that's not even including things like parity, bias, luck and general lack of knowledge/information among the fanbase. Heck, I'd argue that evaluating players based solely on what we see on TV is at best 60-70% as effective as watching in person (from a birds eye vantage point). I'm not convinced that the talent GG is working with is as strong a roster as we tend to give them credit for and I'm also not convinced that GG is getting as much as he can out of each player. Yes, both those things can be true. Even if he gets fired tomorrow and another coach takes over, there's no way to know for sure if the new coach is the one who is responsible for any improvement in results. There's about 20 different things that factor into the equation that could affect how the team performs and the results they get. And if the players perform worse under the new coach, then what? We gonna bring back GG? Last edited by Cecil Terwilliger; 11-25-2017 at 02:25 PM.