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Originally Posted by Cheese
wow...thats quite the little stretch Fly. Do you have some type of study on the first part hilited? I can remember quite clearly as a kid being on both sides of the fence...and quite frankly religion never entered my mind when taking or giving a beating. I might have uttered the words God or Jesus in reference to either the pain of the hit or the supposed feeling of control. Maybe thats where you draw your parallel?
Having raised 2 families and having talked to my kids...at length...about various things..I dont EVER remember them suggesting at any time that the religion of a person or the religious practice or non practise was part of anything to do with bullying. Maybe it was simply a paranoid reaction to something said by your parents as a child?
Saying I blame religion the way the Nazis did is inferring I am of like mind to a Nazi. Now I havent laid that kind of low blow on you...but I could if you want? I will however suggest you go back thru this thread and read where I posted a link or links about how Nazis and Hitler actually were not Atheists and actually used religion as a base. Im too tired to go back and find it for you...and Im 100% positive youll find those links posted in just about every other thread these discussions come up in.
Now please dont go off half pussied again about things...I didnt say ALL of you were bad..I simply posted a link to someone else who did a study suggesting that theists dont hold any moral high ground whatsoever when it comes to raising children any better...and MAY in fact be worse. Not my words or my study.
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You know Cheese, as a child I NEVER would have hurt anyone BECAUSE I was raised better than that. Living in a small community, you knew which kids went to church and actually paid attention and you know which kids didn't. Whether it came and went through their mind at the time is rather irrelevant because as you said, children are mallable. They don't question why they're doing things, it's ingrained. Also, I suggested it as a reason that such a study is imperfect. I never said that I was 100% certain, I just said that I'd bet if a study were done, the results would prove other variables.
I also don't give a **** whether Hitler and the Nazi's were athiests or not. That wasn't my point. My point is that they blamed religion, as do you. I don't care whether they were religious or not. I said they blamed religion, as do you. I call em like I see em. I'm sorry that reflects badly on you. Guns don't hurt people, people hurt people Cheese. Same can be said for religion.
Also, don't you know that for every study out there, there is another one proving the exact opposite? You should know better Cheese. You're old enough now.
And again, I love how you throw in thinly veiled, and now sexist barbs. half-pussied? The phrase is half-cocked, like a gun. Guns don't get pussied. Really. I'm quite disappointed in you. I thought you were better than that.