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Old 11-05-2017, 05:59 PM   #52
marsplasticeraser
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll View Post
So you're basically suggesting that somehow the government ban...

Notwithstanding the constitution issues and the fact that a lot of LE would not enforce a law like this, how would you go about collecting them and finding the hundreds of billions of dollars needed to buy them back?
It’s terrifying that you suggest law enforcement wouldn’t enforce the laws if they disagree with them. I don’t doubt you’re true, but terrifying.

What I find incredible is how many Americans immediately find dozens of reasons why there can’t be any progress in reducing the gun tragedies.

Another view on gun control is we already address this with other products that are dangerous. For drugs, planes, cars there is almost no debate on the value of basic rules on how they are used.

As an example, for something like a car, society agrees on the need for registration, who can be granted a licence, the need for 3rd party insurance if you cause damage and limits on how the products are used. It seems sensible you could almost duplicate the automobile restrictions and then tweak and solve a lot of the problems(but not all).

Ultimately, you can see the power of decades of propaganda in managing to make people unable to see these sensible, easy solutions that have already proven their benefit. For many this is an unsolvable problem, and the end result is viewed as acceptable as there are no other acceptable solutions.

Alas, I can’t see a solution for America. Violent crime, corporate lobbying and control by the rich means the average person has no control. For many it’s not a great place to live, though they may not realize it, having had 70+ years of hearing America is the greatest country on earth.

Ultimately, America is moving away from what I think an ideal democracy should be and further towards ‘democracy’ I’ve seen first-hand in Africa and South America. The scary question is whether America is an early-adopter of 21st century politics or a one-off and Canada and Europe will follow soon.

God I hope they’re a one-off.
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