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Old 10-31-2017, 05:55 PM   #186
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I have no idea about what has happened, about why a 14-yr old boy was alone at an adult drunken party at night, about why Rapp didn't do anything about it for 30 years. Frankly, I am not that interested either. This - excessive drugs, alcohol, orgies - seems to be the publicly acceptable and admirable lifestyle of the celebrity entertainment world. It would be naive to assume that this lifestyle is not leading to some form of sexual discontent under elevated sexual pretenses.
This is kind of where I'd like these stories to go.

I don't really have much of an opinion on this specific event, beyond "sounds normal to me, in those surroundings, based on what I've heard". Which is the sad part. Same as the the rock'n'roll stars in the sixties and seventies, having sex with young teens was seen as okay. Stars could talk about it in interviews and people would be "yeah that's totally cool". It's pretty easy to lose your moral compass in a situation like that, and while smart guys like Bowie or Spacey should definitely have known better, I really feel it's pointless to start crucifying individual stars.

I mean honestly, at a certain age if I had the power to pressure pretty girls to have sex with me without fear of consequence, I would probably have done it, and I don't think I'm very special in that. I don't mean we should accept it as normal, what I mean is that if that IS seen as normal, a lot of pretty average people will end up doing it.

I'm not generally big on publicly hanging individual people for the culture that surrounded them. Sometimes it needs to be done, but in those cases it'd be nice if the attention was on the worst people, not the most famous ones. I don't know if Spacey is one of the worst or not, but I haven't heard anything that makes him sound very special.

That said, it's good that Rapp is talking about what happened. It sucks for Spacey, but people need to have faces attached to stories before they really start paying attention, and it's not like Spacey didn't do anything to deserve the negative attention.

The entertainment business needs to realize abuse should not be normal, and it won't happen unless people talk about this stuff. Nothing is going to change overnight, but you got to start somewhere. The cases that come out should be treated as tip of the iceberg and examples of what has happened, not as sacrificial lambs to silence the angry mobs while continuing business as usual.
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