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Old 10-26-2017, 04:38 PM   #482
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My definition of 'natural' has nothing to do with labels. A box of #### claiming to be 'all natural' is a farce 9 times out of 10. What do I consider natural? Foodthat comes as close to its normal state as possible. If it isn't branded, packaged, trademarked, patented, marketed, or licensed, it's a safe bet it's pretty close to 'natural'.
Sure, you can raise the argument "Well cooking is processing!" Or "Everything is not natural unless you pull it out of a virgin angels womb", but those are usually obtuse arguments by those who think 'organic' is synonyms wth 'idiot who can't think for himself and is being played'. You know what's worse than paying a little more for something that maybe has negligible health benefits over the conventional? Multi-generational health issues because most people's diet is as diverse in actual substanance as the soil the corn is grown in. Which is to say, not at all.
Also, it would take some pretty remarkable evidence to convince me Organic farming practises are worse for the environment than GMO farming practises. Yes, the "Organic" label is flawed, as I've spoken with many people who grow my food in a manner I would call organic but they do not meet some rather silly criteria for he Organic label.
And where the hell are you buying your food where ANY bottle of pasta sauce is $20? I promise you, I shop everywhere but Walmart for food, and never seem to have to pay 200% for an Organic or close alternative. And while I'm more likely to chose a product based on its merit, not just an Organic label, its a reliable alternative to products that directly support the terrible business practices of companies such as Monsanto, yes.
Here are a couple good links.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/26...ootprint-11338

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/i...e-environment/

It also includes links in the article with studies. Essentially the Carbon footprint may be the same, but you use up to 40% more Land to produce the equivalent amount of food with Organic farming.

Does this convince you at all ?

I would also like to know how you intend for the growing population of the Earth to be fed with backyard gardens using seeds passed down through the generations. It is a LUXURY that you get to do this. 90% of the planet does not have that luxury. I have arguments with hard line Anti-GMO folks that think a human population cull is a good thing.
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