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Originally Posted by kermitology
I won't disagree with you on this point. Prime example is the Pope. I still don't think you're grasping the operation of Communism in relation to religion. I'd wager that a majority of the death created by the Soviet Union was under the rule of Stalin, who had his own motives, unrelated to religion for his murders. In fact, Stalin used the Russian Orthodox church as a motivation tool during the Great Patriotic War (Second World War). But what is it about a totalitarian government that keeps people in line and keeps them from revolting? Education. Who is providing education and ideas from outside the Communist party? Churches.
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The Pope like Stalin were motivated by a desire for power. Whether they used religion or ideology to rally the troops is mostly irrelevant. The cause was their lust for power and things. Being religious or not didn't change the results.
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Big deal. If you read what I wrote earlier I said that man is a part of nature and that it is by definition chaotic. War, violence, murder, those are all part of nature.
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OK I personally think James said it better(and of course first) But, we essentially agree.