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Originally Posted by Calgaryborn
At least you know where my quote came from. Cheese quoted some supposed Christian source and pertends that they represent what Christians think. He either doesn't have the will or the ability to even put a name by the quote or explain how this person represents most Christian's world view.
I in fact showed from history that the first place where their was true freedom of religion was the baptist colony of Rhode Island. The freedom of conscience would have allowed for the free expression of atheism as well. Since not believing there is a God is a religious belief.
Yes well how hard could that be? It wasn't until the 20th century that we find States which embraced atheism. So if you choose you could attribute everything bad that has happened in this world to religion. O except for communism which is because of a bad ideology; Right? Such hypocrisy!
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ROFLMAO....well geez I forget one link and CBA gets all excited! LOL.
At the VERY least I have links to something...anything...besides whatever version of the Bible you are using.
You seriously need to get educated regarding Communism...do anything you can to help yourself.
here Ill help you again...
http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQ...nat_killed.htm
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...e_atheism.html
In their attempt to demonize atheism, many church leaders to this day insist on equating atheism with communism. This tactic, which originated during Sen. Joseph McCarthys anti-communist hysteria, is as nonfactual today as it was then. Just because one is an atheist, it does not follow that they are communists. Mark Twain, Thomas Edison, Luther Burbank, Katherine Hepburn and countless others are known to be atheists, yet no one would call them communists. In fact, there have been many communist countries in Europe and elsewhere that were Christian, including Roman Catholic Italy, Hungary, and Poland, and Lutheran Germany.
The smear campaign against atheists is an attempt to link them with the crimes of the various communist dictatorships. Few would deny that Joseph Stalins Soviet Union was a totalitarian dictatorship, or that he focused much of his enmity on the church. However, we must consider two important factors: 1) Did he commit his crimes in the name of atheism, and 2) What were his motivations.
http://www.atheistsunited.org/wordso...communism.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/atheist.htm
Atheism is NOT historically linked to Communism, or any other particular system of social organization. Atheists represent many shades on the political spectrum, and often disagree amongst themselves about political issues. While Communism and its leading theoreticians happened to be Atheists, social activists of other persuasions have been Atheists as well. Many of us link our Atheism -- which is, after all, based on Reason -- to socially progressive ideas including civil liberties and social equality. We "agree to disagree," hopefully in a friendly and respectful manner though, about a wide range of current issues. We work together where possible,
especially on the important issue of separation of State and Church.
http://www.atheists.org/faqs/atheism.html#not.communism
There are multiple answers, but the question itself rests on a misunderstanding of Atheism. Atheism is not an ideology or belief system; in fact, Atheism is simply an absence of belief in a God or gods. Atheism does not lead to Communism anymore than disbelieving in Santa Claus leads anybody to steal toys from kids. Atheism isn't about believing something: it's about doubting something.
And Ive told you this before...but you continue to ignore it...
It is true that the Bolsheviks discouraged religious worship, closed some churches and stole church property and wealth. One might wonder why the churches were so wealthy and the people so poor but, again, a complete story would show that the Russian Orthodox Church was the confidante of and collaborator with a corrupt and repressive Russian monarchy.
http://www.ronaldbrucemeyer.com/rants/1116almanac.htm
People could practice religion if they liked. There were Churches built in the Soviet era by the Soviet government. The difference is that Church and the state was separated.
http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml8313.htm
The philanthropy of atheism is therefore at first only philosophical, abstract philanthropy, and that of communism is at once real and directly bent on action.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx...ripts/comm.htm
Enough?