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Old 10-19-2017, 12:35 PM   #3314
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV View Post
I think Burns is better than Josi.

Not because he's great defensively, but because I think Josi isn't special defensively either and turns the puck over way in his own zone more than people are willing to recognize. Both are offensive defensemen and Burns is better at that.

I would take quite a few defensemen before Josi:
Hedman (best Dman in NHL)
Karlsson
Doughty
Subban
Pietrangelo
Keith
Brodie (when he's not playing like last year, which I contend was an outlier)
Giordano(when he's playing with an offensive green light. He kind of restrains himself playing with Dougie which is acceptable as together they are the top D pair in NHL)
Burns
OEL
Lindholm
Slavin

And after those guys I would consider Klingberg before Josi though it's a coin-flip that probably goes to Josi only because Klingberg played soft the last time I watched him.
That's nuts to me. Josi is the anchor on the Preds back end. Listen to top players around the league, Josi is one of the most annoying defenceman to play against because of his solid gap control and strong skating. I believe Scheifele was the guy quoted at saying this. There's a reason Josi averages 2-3 minutes more per game than Subban...he's that good.

OEL/Lindholm/Slavin/Brodie/Subban are all a notch below Josi, IMO. Hedman, Doughty, and Karlsson are the only ones I'd put above him, and it's awfully close.
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