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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
I think people are reading too much into the "campaign".
Really, it's to show how many people this sort of thing impacts and for those in the dark to have a "whoa" moment at the sheer volume of garbage.
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Yeah, it sort of started from nowhere and just snowballed without a very specific goal beyond "this is a serious problem". Just the fact that it happened I think clearly says there was a need for it, but because of that lack of a specific goal, it was inevitably that it was going to evolve into lots of other things. I think that should be taken as a good thing, instead of trying to just limit it to "let the women talk and that's it".
I don't mind a bit of a sh**storm over this. I might not have been a fan of the campaign, but I do like many of the discussions I've seen in my social media, and it seems the mainstream media is also starting to pick up these stories.
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Originally Posted by GGG
What do you want people to do then? Admission with intent to change behaviour seems like a positive outcome of this campaign.
Admission Is an important part metoo movenment in terms of changing behaviour. It breaks down the #notallmen attitude that exists. When men in general think of harassment and assault we think of some creep and not the average person. With many men admitting to harassment from all walks of life it will make victims of harassment more likely to believed and the issue more prominanet as a societal problem as opposed to a small cohort problem.
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I also think there's an important humanizing part in this.
A lot of women talk have talked about how difficult it is to tell their friends or coworkers "that's not okay, don't do that", and I think one reason is exactly because of this idea that the creepy harasser is some "other", not the otherwise pretty normal guy. Nobody wants to think their friends could be "the other".
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
There's a time and place for everything. In a week or two, I'm sure a men-driven movement to discuss one's past bad behaviour and one's plans to be a better person would be well received, but the sentiment I'm getting from many women on my friends' list today is, "God, why can't you men just listen to us for once instead of trying to make everything about YOU?"
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I get that, but that's just not how people work. There's going to be something else in a couple of weeks, and another campaign would not be likely to create such a tidal wave.
Also, tons of women have complained about "why is it again about us? Why are we not talking about the guys that are doing it?"
You can't please everyone. I err on the side of doing something.