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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yeah, so you've just equivocated on the definition of sexual harassment. Again, I'm not going to get into it, there's really no point. I'll just say this and bow out of the thread.
First, it seems to me that all of this discussion doesn't need to involve strict rules regulating the interaction between the sexes, beyond "treat women like people".
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Which is the point. Some men aren’t doing that. Some men don’t understand that they aren’t doing that. These rules are built along the lines of “how to treat women more like people, and less like objects for your own personal gratification.”
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Second, the concept of "people" includes their sexuality, which is not something to be feared. Presenting women's psyches as dependent upon their sexual inviolateness is not only non-representative of most women, but demeaning and regressive. It is an overture to purity culture.
With that, I leave you to it.
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Thanks for arguing against something nobody is saying. If you truly believe that this is about fearing sexuality instead of engaging in sexuality when appropriate to do so, do the work. A movement suggesting that our own sexuality should be understood and engaged in when appropriate, not when a man feels the slightest urge, is far from a purity culture.
For someone who preaches nuance, I am surprised you don’t see the vast expanse of sexual expression between “I have to sexually harass this waitress so she knows I am sexually interested!” and “SOCIETY IS CHASTE.” Because it’s pretty vast, and in there, somewhere, is an area where people are somehow able to control their sexual urges to a point where they are channelling them to the appropriate relationships, and not complimenting their enployee’s beautiful face or making a sexual advance on the girl at the hotel desk.
Maybe listen to the women here, instead of making this into a selfish thing where you lament the fall of sexuality because someone says you shouldn’t perve on the waitress.