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Originally Posted by eazyduzzit
How can you be 100% sure of the unknown? You don't seem to realize all the good religion does, what it organizes and what it accomplishes. Not to mention, what it would take to fill a void that big.
Refere to Red Mile Styles post, i think he said it best.
P.s. - Well said Red Mile Style!
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Well I can certainly throw that right back at you and say...how can you be 100% certain that a secular society would not take up the slack? Circular logic the theists LOVE to toss out.
Isnt it rather pessimistic to think that man is inherantly bad or evil? Isnt that what the church has programmed many to think? Isnt that "negative" thinking? If the church or Christians really think thats true...then what on earth would make anyone think they are good for society?
There is simply no reason or basis to suggest that man would not be a postive social animal without the influence of the church.
Again...just so you are aware...and as a reminder...do you think that just because Im an Atheist I have had no affiliation with a Christian church?
Do you believe that the vast majority of Atheists have had no touch in the Christian world?
For every single positive element you can list about postive role modelling in the church I can post one from a secular perspective....the real tough part starts when you have to start listing all of the atrocities created by religion...any religion. I dont think you will get an even comaprison with the secular world in that regard.
The Christian church preys on the fear of death....if you are bad or evil you will go to CalgaryBornAgains Hell....so you better be good and you better praise <pick a God>. Evil is a creation of the church.
William Shakespeare said there is nothing either good nor bad but thinking makes it so.
I think good.