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Originally posted by Five-hole+Nov 12 2004, 09:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Five-hole @ Nov 12 2004, 09:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Flame On@Nov 11 2004, 11:27 PM
Here we go again. No more DIS than the Republicans appealed to the lowest common denomenator with fear mongering, repetition, and outright lies. I'm sick of the elitist dig. The dems are for more equality amongst people, for gays, for the middle class and choice for women. The religious right are for limiting rights and controling the whole of the US with their "values" which is elitist?
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That's a great point. Conservatism is all about preferential treatment for their "elite", whether it's the economically elite or morally elite. Par example, you only get to marry if you follow our rules for it. That's the definition of elitism: the belief that there should be preferential treatment for a certain group of people. Elitism is one of the most misused words in the English language. It doesn't mean "I think I'm better than you". That's not elitism, that's arrogance or condescension. Elitism is "I think I'm better than you, therefore I deserve X". That's got Republican/conservative written all over it. [/b][/quote]
Kerry and Edwards both against gay marriage. Yet that's the issue that gets brought up most in this argument. You might want to try again....
and let's remember something...gay marriage has never been 'legal' in the US. It's not like the Bush administration swept in and took away rights of citizens on this one. Why has the issue never been brought up in American politics on such a large scale before now? Why wasn't the champion of equal rights, Bill Clinton, hammered for not doing anything about it?