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Originally Posted by Thor
I loved TNG, took me a while to warm up to DS9, Voyager liked a lot about half way in to first season, and Enterprise just never felt right, although I did enjoy it.
I just wonder if we had the internet and FB when TNG came out, if this hostility was around as well but we didn't see it; that first season was pretty bad with some few standout episodes.
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I understand that other Trek series took a while to smooth out the kinks. But they never changed their basic premise - they just got better at doing what they were trying to do. These are what I consider the five essential elements of Star Trek:
* Science and exploration
* Ethical dilemmas around science and interaction with other species
* Generally optimistic view of humanity
* Ensemble cast that demonstrates comradery
* Kids and parents can watch together
Every other series had these elements, and demonstrated them from the outset (even if the delivery could be shaky). With Discovery, I don't care if it gets better at what it's trying to do, because I have no interest in the kind of show it wants to be - a darker Expanse with better production values.
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Originally Posted by Thor
Maybe people just expected another TNG type show, or hoped for it, but we will not get a cast like that again with the impatience of the modern TV viewing audience, back in the early 90s the quality of TV shows as a rule is nothing like what we get today so people are far more picky, justifiably so, with what they choose to watch.
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And I'm one of those picky viewers. To me, 80 per cent of TV is absolute garbage, 15 per cent is decent but probably not worth my time, and 5 per cent is good enough to watch. Though as someone who only watches 4-5 hours of TV a week (and much of that from back catalogues of older shows), I don't have time to watch even most of the very best stuff. Of the new Star Trek shows, Orville makes the cut and Discovery doesn't.