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Isis isnt Islamic. If isis was islamic you wouldnt be safe. Your cab driver would kill you. Your kids math teacher would blow up the school. Muslims are everywhere and Islam is everywhere. So its safe to say isis isnt Islamic. Isis is political in nature. Their goals are mainly political goals. Their enemies and rivals are politicians. They arent a religious movement. They are a political movement of people who view themselves as religious. If they were a religious EXTREMISTS like Bin Laden they would target saudi arabia because mecca is there and Israel because of the Palestine issue and the 2nd holiest site in Islam being in Jerusalem. Simply put isis are not islamic. Muslims, by the quran are not allowed to do the things isis have done.

Killing innocent people or other innocent muslims isnt something 'halal'. Thus isis isnt Islamic

Your point about how these people see themselves is wrong to me. If I see myself as the captain of the calgary flames and go do something terrible does it reflect on the calgary flames?

They see themselves as true muslims. Just like paedophiles see themselves as good humans. Just like criminals see themselves as innocent.

In the other thread about vegas shootings people are already suggesting mental illness and a tumor on the brain. Essentially making excuses for a man who killed 60 and injured around 300 innocent human beings.

We dont consider these terrorists are crazy deranged people. Which is what they are. We have been taught by the media to see this as a muslim thing. "They just kill people once in a while. Its something they do because of their religion. Not because they are sick twisted murderers with no morals. Its their religion that makes them kill."

Quite frankly that narrative is stupid. There are billions of Muslims. The vast majority of them are appalled and embarrassed by terrorism. They shorten their names to Moe and Joe from Muhammad and Yusuf because they are sick of dealing with it. 99.9 percent of muslims have nothing to do with this. They are normal people.

Its like walking up to a German American and asking them to answer for the nazis. Or guilt tripping a white male for the treatment of Native Americans or black slaves. Yelling at a Chinese person in Calgary because SOME people
In China eat dogs even though the majority are repulsed by it.

If people want to discuss radical islam, its origins and goals. Wahhabism/Salafism. Saudi sponsored and propogated terrorism from Bosnia to Somalia to 9/11. The fact our government just sold weapons to saudi arabia which has sponsored terrorism for ages, beheads and hangs and stones people daily on live tv. Women cant even drive there ffs. Why dont we debate the literal Mecca of Islam and its role in what we see with political islam. The western fed fued between sunni and shia. The role of petroleum and the petro dollar in all of this.

I think an actual debate on these topics would be good. But a good debate takes 2 mature intelligent sides. Nobody is going to debate people posting quotes from racist websites.

How we can deal with these terrorists and what can be done. Im interested in that. But as far as the typical right wing trolls who make posts like that pesky religion of peace again, theres no point in a debate with close minded fools like that.