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Old 09-22-2017, 12:04 PM   #2213
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Originally Posted by Makarov View Post
I disagree. An arena will certainly require a larger station (capable of serving larger crowds on event nights) which will of course cost more to build.
There's already an arena there, and this is right on top of the Stampede Grounds. The need for larger station capacity already exists and is already undoubtedly being planned for. The proposed new arena does not change this in any way.

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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus View Post
The thing that I fail to understand is how this was even deemed to be going nowhere by CSEC. This is a negotiation and the city is obviously going to cave on some of this stuff (and so they should) just like the Flames will.
That's easy, actually. The Flames are looking at the end costs being that they ultimately pay for everything + extra on the property tax/lease/rent. As a consequence, their view is that the city's proposal is it ultimately pays $0. And relative to the Rogers Place deal where Edmonton is going to end up paying about $300 million that won't ever need to be repaid, you can see the gulf from the team's POV.

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Why?
Because the city is both assigning that $25 million to the Flames and trying to separate it anyway to make it seem like the Flames aren't responsible for it.

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It does: Zero.
Semantics. Nenshi has said they could investigate any model from city owned with lease/rent to team owned with property tax. It's all the same in the end. Any which way you slice it, and even if you are 100% in support of having them do so, it will still come out under "Flames pay".
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