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Old 08-24-2017, 05:16 PM   #8500
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch View Post
I doubt that there would be a lot of divisions within the military and if there are the renegade elements would be extremely small.

Remember also that most of the officers have sworn an oath to defend and uphold the constitution and in the same breath obey the commands of the president and commander in chief. If Trump is thrown out he has no authority and any and all orders generated by him would be illegal.

What you might get is small splits within units, I even doubt that you would get renegade units because unless we're talking about the national guard, Military Units are pretty much mixed with elements from all over the States.

The National Guard units might be a different animal just because most national guard units are comprised of civilian soldiers from that area. So the North Carolina National Guard might respond to a order from the Governor.

I just can't see it happening.
Okay this is speculative fiction at best now, but that's assuming that he is thrown out and is no longer in control of the military. I was thinking more what if the military is receiving orders that contradict "upholding the constitution" and "obeying the president". The military is from the entire country, yes, but I think it's safe to say most people in military service will lean conservative/republican. That's not to say they will all put up with crazy bulls***, but I'd be willing to bet the percentage of REAL trump supporters is higher in the military than it is in the general population. We see it with the police force, and as you mentioned, the national guard could see some resistance to federal orders.

If you start to get any situation where soldiers know their officers are disobeying the president's orders, or soldiers refusing to carry out orders, and it could end up snowballing into a whole bag of crap that we probably don't want to think about. But I do think it's a little naive to think it can't happen. Maybe not all out military force against itself (right away anyways) but states seceding (or at least trying), governors refusing to comply with feds (we've already seen it with the sanctuary cities), sure.

We're in largely unprecedented territory here. I don't think we can really rule out many possibilities.
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