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Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Nov 11 2004, 06:11 AM
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@Nov 10 2004, 11:41 PM
So the story is just a justification for what's happening in Fallujah right now eh?# Maybe in your mind.# To me, it's just an aside.# Everyone knew all along that Al-Zarqawi was operating in Fallujah.# Not sure your spin really works.
One thing we can agree on, the innocent citizens of Fallujah are suffering right now.
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Well it's sort of a justification.
"Look what we found, that's why we're here"! is pretty transparent I think.
I don't know that I'm "spinning" anything. Everyone knew (or at least believed) that Zarqawi was there. Everyone also knows that he's long gone, along with his bestest buddies.
From what I've read, the American troops are now fighting the locals. With a destroyed city and thousands of dead Fallujans, what happens when the rest of the people return?
This is bad. There is no spin needed.
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Ah, I get it. So your sources tell you that there are no insurgents left in Fallujah and now the Americans are just killing locals for fun and justifying it by using the word slaughterhouse instead of humane innocent elimination building. Thanks for clearing that up for me. [/b][/quote]
Gee whiz and you say I'm spinning? You know that's not what I was saying.
Of course there are "insurgents". Of course the Americans (and Iraqi forces) are not just killing the locals for fun. I disagree with the whole thing but I know that American soldiers are not a bunch of sadistic crazies. Still, civilians (I believe) are getting killed en masse.
The term "slaughterhouse" brings up certain images. If it's true then use it. What bothers me is that the "good side" and it's supporters couch so much in innocuous language like "collateral damage" and other nice euphemisms. There are no doubt thousands of dead people in that city right now. The whole place is a slaughterhouse. The city is being destroyed, the people are dying. Propping up some sadly trivial place where some people may have died is, I don't know, disingenuous? It seems to be a "can't see the forest for the trees" kind of thing.
It's like saying "yeah, thousands of people are dying, but we did find a place where they killed a few, so the whole thing is justified".
I'd prefer they were a little more honest about it all. Honesty ain't pretty though.